Posts by strawberry cake

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Why have GB set aside another bible teaching?

by hamsterbait in

wt june 15 p28:.

" jehovah rejected israel as a nation.".

yet romans 11:2 says: "god did not reject his people whom he first recognized.".

GB sidles out of 1919 and puts 1914 in the bin. (WT study.)!!

by hamsterbait in

has anybody noticed in many recent watchtowers that christ is now said to have "turned his attention to the earth in 1914.".

unlike the 60's they do not say christ "came" in 1914. the "proclaimers book " p137 says the bible students came to discern that "christ did not return, (even invisibly), in 1914.".

the way is now paved.

How many JW that are not raised in the truth have left the organization?

by THE_CHOSEN_ONE in

according to watch tower statistics about 30000 thousand people per year left the organization.

my question is: how many of them in are not raised in the truth?

sorry for my poor english.

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I was baptized aged 28 and left at 42.

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Bethel moving from Brooklyn.

by strawberry cake in

an old pioneer friend told me recently that the bethel is moving from brooklyn.

she learned this at pioneer school from the cos who taught the school.

also they warned of many changes to come.

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Thanks for info. So they're not moving to a compound in Guyana then?

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Bethel moving from Brooklyn.

by strawberry cake in

an old pioneer friend told me recently that the bethel is moving from brooklyn.

she learned this at pioneer school from the cos who taught the school.

also they warned of many changes to come.

An old pioneer friend told me recently that the Bethel is moving from Brooklyn. She learned this at pioneer school from the COs who taught the school. Also they warned of many changes to come. Has anyone else heard this. xxx Strawberry Cake

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Why I don't want to associate with pioneers

by JimmyPage in

jw
friends

sometimes i get flak for not having more "spiritual" associates.

the reason i don't really care for pioneers is that whatever interests or hobbies they have get replaced by the whole pioneering thing.

they become less like normal people and become more a clone of what a good dub "should" be.

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I was a pioneer. I gave it my best shot. I followed, as best I could all the suggestions from the WT on what 'Godly devotion' was (not!) I was wrong. I was had. It's all a crock!

Pioneers,publishers,elders, MS..all the same, just following the directives from the cult leaders in Brooklyn.

xxx Strawberry Cake.

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What was your first Religious Experience ?

by Casper in

just wondered how others first learned about religion.

i know "born ins" were taught from the start but the rest of us had to start somewhere.

my very first memory of anything supposedly religious was at the age of six... my grandmother took me to a "tent revival".

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I was about 7. I was on my own at a church Christmas fair. At this church fair I bought a raffle ticket to win one of three beautifully decorated christmas cakes.

One was of a winter scene, made of marzipan and icing.One was a chocolate log and one was made of strawberrys and cream. ( a strawberry cake) I wanted to win my favourite....the strawberry cake which was second prize.

I then wondered around looking at the stalls. For some reason, (this surprised me even then) I stole a toy from one of the stalls. I felt so bad. The guilt consumed me, as I walked around the church hall in my own world.

I decided I must put it back. So I prayed to God for forgiveness and put it back. I felt such relief and peace after I had done this. Later, when the raffle was called....can you guess? I won second prize... the Strawberry Cake. I believed God had rewarded me...I'm 42 now and I still believe it.

My adult experience was when I was about 25 and had come out of an emotionally abusive marriage. I was standing in a market place surrounded by people shopping and I felt like something was pushing me to the ground ( a heavy weight of depression, a dark cloud)I felt tearful and exhausted. I had this desire to curl up on the floor in the middle of the market.

Someone I knew said hello to me and I could not answer..it was as if I had forgotten how to speak. I just stared at them. They walked on.

At that moment I knew I was going to have a nervous breakdown....So I prayed, in my head..God help me, give me strength, I can't cope. I pleaded and begged hard. Almost instantly, a feeling of strength came back to me, I stood up. I could cope. I strode home, with a realization that I needed God in my life. I then started going to different churches and then to the JWs as I was familiar with them through my mum once studying with them. All my years as a zealous JW was me throwing myself on Jehovah as I felt I could not stay strong without him. Now that I have left the Org of false religion , I find I still have God (I still pray..)and I don't need organized religion to have God.

xxx Strawberry Cake

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Who has lost faith?

by logic&reason in

i am curious about who (after leaving) went on to other religions vs. lost faith completely.

once i started questioning the wt society, i began to question everything.

as jw's we are taught from childhood up that other religions are false - so it seems easy, after elliminating the last one, to be rid of religion altogether.. .

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A recent ex study phoned to invite me to the memorial

by strawberry cake in

i have a friend,who i used to study with for quite a while.

she was slowed down in her 'spiritual progress' because she had to work tuesday nights.

so couldn't get to all the meetings.this prevented her from becoming a publisher for many years.

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Thanks Pahpa
Thanks Hope

I have spent time with her and explained that I am still here for her and that I can't stay just for her.
I hope she knows I am still her friend.
xxx

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A recent ex study phoned to invite me to the memorial

by strawberry cake in

i have a friend,who i used to study with for quite a while.

she was slowed down in her 'spiritual progress' because she had to work tuesday nights.

so couldn't get to all the meetings.this prevented her from becoming a publisher for many years.

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I have a friend,who I used to study with for quite a while. She was slowed down in her 'spiritual progress' because she had to work Tuesday nights. so couldn't get to all the meetings.This prevented her from becoming a publisher for many years. She had family abroad that she had to feed and finds it hard to find work as she is almost illiterate.

Well, since I included her situation in my many complaints against the WT she has been made publisher..even though she does not get to all the meetings. They did this, I believe to try and hold on to her, now that I have left. Well it worked,because she was very excited about being a publisher and phoned to let me know when she was having her questions and the results.( She said she can't shun me because Jesus said we must help the 'weak'.)

When I first left. She was devastated and cried and cried at my home for me to please come back. Today she begged me to come to the memorial. She said I have been so kind to her and helped her so much...and now I am not there. She said she feels weak and if it wasn't for her love for Jehovah she would leave the Organization.She was very upset.

I have tried to explain many things, but she does't get it. She thinks something has got hold of me. I feel sorry for her, because I was so full on before and encouraged her so much..Anyway I think she's finally got the message. I 'm not coming back. I still care for her and her family and hope she doesn't shun me. But what will be, will be. Any experiences like this?

xxx Strawberry Cake